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As a young man, Dr. Harold Fain, now a physician with JPS Health Network, advocated for a woman’s right to choose. After taking part in an abortion on the job, however, he couldn’t shake the image of the baby who died in the process. 

The Rev. Barbara Dunlap, an ordained clergy in the United Methodist Church, grew up in a community that welcomed discussion on hard topics. Through her ministry and her own pregnancies, including a miscarriage, she came to see reproductive health as a deeply personal choice. 

In this episode, Fain and Dunlap discuss their differences when it comes to abortion — and whether a Colorado approach to women’s health could work in Tarrant County.

Their conversation was edited for length and clarity.

This episode was edited and produced by Alexis Allison. Health Story is funded by the Solutions Journalism Network through its inaugural “Complicating the Narratives” Fellowship.


  1. Texas Maternal Mortality and Morbidity Review Committee and Department of State Health Services Joint Biennial Report 2022
  2. Preconception Health and Family Planning in Tarrant County


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Alexis Allison covers health for the Fort Worth Report. When she can, she'll slip in an illustration or two. Allison is a former high school English teacher and hopes her journalism is likewise educational....